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I just got banned on /r/jailbreak for literally helping people get Unc0ver. One store was signed and I made a post saying "Unc0ver on \[store\] is signed! Get it while you can!" The only signing service that is allowed on /r/jailbreak is jailbreaks.fun . However, as you can see when you click on the link, it is not publicly available. A couple of minutes later, I got perma-banned for "Breaking the piracy rule [\[Rule 18\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/ab0u49/meta_important_changes_for_2019/) for the third time." I told them that this was not fair and that I should be unbanned. Basically I told them that if the only "alternative store" that is allowed; jailbreaks.fun , is unusable for the public. I read [\[Rule 18\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/ab0u49/meta_important_changes_for_2019/) and saw that they picked jailbreaks.fun to be the only allowed signing service because it only hosts jailbreaks and not pirated games. That does make sense, however, I was literally just trying to help the jailbreak community. A lot of people do not have a computer for checkra1n and are dependent on these stores for their jailbreak. As I mentioned, this was the third piracy strike. I don't even remember what my first one was; I joined /r/jailbreak somewhere in September 2019. However, I do remember the second time. Someone was trying to get Unc0ver for iOS 12.4 and all the stores except iOS Ninja were revoked. I told the person in the post to get Unc0ver from iOS Ninja. The result was that I got banned for a week from /r/jailbreak. I do understand that the stores are techically piracy, but they do also host jailbreaks. I did techically break the rule though. Do YOU think this was fair? ​ Post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/hcmqki/news\_unc0ver\_is\_signed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/hcmqki/news_unc0ver_is_signed/) iOS Ninja Post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/fb0l3t/help\_so\_i\_decided\_to\_install\_the\_unc0ver\_ipa/](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/fb0l3t/help_so_i_decided_to_install_the_unc0ver_ipa/) ​ AT LEAST I DIDN'T LINK THIS: [https://imgur.com/a/Fye2n3l](https://imgur.com/a/Fye2n3l) ​ r/jailbreak be like: [https://imgflip.com/i/45srk7](https://imgflip.com/i/45srk7) \*\*UPDATE\*\* This was the conversation between me and [u/aaronp613](https://www.reddit.com/u/aaronp613/) , the moderator of r/jailbreak: [**Chimera\_Redsn0w** 03:48 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w) Hello, I got banned. I am sorry for talking about an unauthorized signing service. All I was trying to do is help people. Many people are dependent on these signing services for their jailbreak. [Jailbreaks.fun](http://jailbreaks.fun/), which is the only authorized signing service is unusable right now. This is the only thing on the site: "Future home of something quite cool. If you're the site owner, log in to launch this site If you are a visitor, check back soon." Since this is the only signing service that is signed right now, it is the only one people can use. Rule 18 states: "For months the mod team has held the belief that signing services fell under a gray area in terms of piracy." It is true that CokernutX, AppValley, etc are technically a piracy service, but it also hosts Jailbreaks! If people want to pirate games and talk about it, this is not the place. I understand that. Again, [Jailbreaks.fun](http://jailbreaks.fun/) is unusable right now. The only people who can use it are site moderators. I am pretty sure that most people in this subreddit are not [jailbreaks.fun](http://jailbreaks.fun/) site moderators. [Jailbreaks.fun](http://jailbreaks.fun/) was a good decision back when it was accessible to the general public. Now, it is not such a great decision. I understand that I broke the rules of [r/jailbreak](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak), but I was just trying to help. I also understand that having an entire community to moderate is hard and there have to be some harsh rules. However, I think this rule is too harsh. I really like the jailbreak community and was just doing this from the good of my heart. I rarely post here, but I try to help people when I can. The final decision goes to you, however. Whether my ban can be lifted or not. Again I am sorry for breaking Rule 18. Thank you in advance. [**aaronp613**09:39 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)While you did have good intentions, you still did break the rules So unfortunately i cant unban you [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:44 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)Please. I really tried to help people. I won’t ever break this piracy rule ever again. [**aaronp613**09:44 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)Unfortunately we do not take intentions into account when it comes to our piracy rule [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:45 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)Alright. [**aaronp613**09:45 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)Sorry i couldnt be of more help [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:45 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)Could we discuss the piracy rule?For a second? [**aaronp613**09:45 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)Not much to discuss [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:46 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)I mean [jailbreaks.fun](http://jailbreaks.fun/) is unusable to the public.I do understand that other stores are technically piracyCokernutX, however does not host much pirated stuffMostly just jailbreaks [**aaronp613**09:48 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)In order to be considered to be allowed on [r/jailbreak](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak), a signing service must do the following:1. Only host jailbreak apps2. must have the jailbreak developer's permission to rehost it3. If there are ads on the site, they must be non intrusive and no fake X buttons [jailbreaks.fun](http://jailbreaks.fun/) was the only one to have all 3 of these [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:49 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)Ok, i understand. However, you can’t just be dependent on one store. No store is signed forever. [**aaronp613**09:50 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)If any other store wants to follow those 3 guidelines, we would be more than happy to allow it [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:50 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)Allowing a piracy service does not tie you to piracy [**aaronp613**09:51 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)We have standards that we want to upkeep [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:51 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)I understand that. But those standards are way too high [**aaronp613**09:52 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)Maybe in your opinion. But they are not. [r/jailbreak](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak) does not allow piracy or LINKS to piracy. [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:52 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)This is a post I made on [/r/jailbreak\_](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak_) shorty after getting banned [**aaronp613**09:52 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)I read itthat subreddit is full of piracyso that dosnt help your case [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:52 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)[https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak\_/comments/hcrrov/just\_got\_permabanned\_on\_rjailbreak/](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak_/comments/hcrrov/just_got_permabanned_on_rjailbreak/)You read my post? [**aaronp613**09:52 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)Yes, i was mentioned in the comments📷[**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:53 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)I understand[Jailbreaks.fun](http://jailbreaks.fun/) is the only one of its kind right?[**aaronp613**09:54 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)Yesits made by [ignition.fun](http://ignition.fun/)they made that new one to adhere to guidline #1 [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:54 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)Yeah but ignition hosts pirated appsThat is kind of funny [**aaronp613**09:55 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)They made this new site so it falled under all 3 guidelines. If any other service wants to do that, they are more than welcome tooBut from what I understand, the unc0ver team is not allowing signing services to host their app right now [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:55 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)What about AltStore [**aaronp613**09:56 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)What about it? [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:56 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)It can technically be considered piracy [**aaronp613**09:56 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)No it cant [**Chimera\_Redsn0w**09:56 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)You could deploy cracked .ipas to a deviceWith altstore[**aaronp613**09:56 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)thats like saying [google.com](http://google.com/) is piracy because you can search up piracy on it [**Chimera\_Redsn0w** 09:57 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)Alright I understandBut technically in that fashion, cokernutx, AppValley, etc could also apply to that statementI mean it does have a majority of pirated apps but still [**aaronp613** 09:58 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/aaronp613)We are going in circles now. This conversation is over [**Chimera\_Redsn0w** 09:59 PM](https://www.reddit.com/user/Chimera_Redsn0w)Alright goodbye ​